Epson TW9400 / TW8400 / UB5050 / UB6050 Tips and Tricks

I have owned the TW9400 / UB6050 for the last two years after owning about 10 JVCs. I got fed up with JVC’s quality control and awful support in Australia. Interestingly, support was great back in the UK and made up for the issues with quality control. This is not to say JVC isn’t trying to improve things, but switching to a first generation JVC in a new chassis is always risky – and in fact a lot of quality control issues have been reported for these new units through the dealers. Their second-gen native 4K units should behave better hopefully.

In any case, the Epson has not skipped a beat and has been an absolute workhorse. There are many reviews online, so I wouldn’t want to repeat the same old here but I thought I’d share some tips and tricks for those that own this projector.

Tip 1A: Update Your Firmware – Pixel Shifting now shifts 3x

While Epson didn’t advertise it anywhere, they released a firmware late last year whereby they updated the pixel shifting in 24p material to flash the panels 3x as opposed to 2x. I was specifically looking out for this change, because Epson included a custom pixel shifting processor in these new models. The new processor allowed Epson to make pixel shifting a lot more precise, reduce blur and improve sharpness. Also, since LCD pixels are smaller than say DLP or JVC’s DILA pixels, the pixels are more defined even when shifting them twice. This makes a huge difference in perceived sharpness compared to JVC’s 1080p to 4K e-shit for example (although it also impacts their 8K e-shift on their new projectors because of the native filtrate that’s present without shifting already).

So what Epson did was update the firmware to flash the panels in-between the two existing positions and improve fine detail and sharpness even more. It made things quite a bit sharper and nuanced for UHD Blu Rays that had a 4K DI, and especially if they were mastered from an 8K source.

So essentially the resolution is now around 1080p x 3 (remember that 4K is 1080p x 4).

More about this in much more detail here.

Tip 1B: Turn Panel Alignment OFF

This is related to the one above. It is important not to use panel alignment as it is a digital correction that will cut your resolution in some of the chroma / colour channels. While it might not be so obvious in certain scenes, it will be very obvious in others.

Of course if your panel alignment is very badly off, you may have to use it. But it’s best to correct whole pixels as opposed to partial pixel widths / heights.

The misalignment is normally not visible with these projectors from any reasonable viewing distance. But if you have it on, any resolution you gain using the new firmware might well be gobbled up by this digital correction. Not great!

Tip 2: Calibrate Dynamic Picture Mode for HDR

I know this sounds crazy, but for HDR you need every bit of juice! Epson rates these projectors at 2400 lumens. HOWEVER, in Dynamic picture mode, with a new lamp, these projectors can put out as much as 3200 lumens which is brighter than some of the laser projectors on the market. It is pretty insane.

However, the issue in Dynamic is colour accuracy. To achieve that level of brightness, more of the green and blue light are let through from the lamp. However, Epson’s dynamic mode is still pretty watchable even on default settings – and much better than let’s say a DLP’s dynamic mode.

However, if you want to try my settings I include them at the end of this article.

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Some people will tell you that it’s better to use the colour filter for HDR to get a larger gamut coverage. However, this isn’t entirely true. Colour perception – especially in HDR – is not two-dimensional but 3. This is why we tend to talk about colour VOLUME when it comes to HDR. That’s not volume as in loudness but volume as in contents of a 3D object, such as a cube.

Colour is expressed as saturation, hue and brightness. That third element is incredibly important for HDR.

So while we may not get as deep saturations on the edges of the gamut without the filter in place, we get 2-3x higher brightness, which means we can express a lot more colours from the volume, than if we had the filter in place. The colours on the edges of the gamut are rarely used while higher brightness within the “popular” colours are a lot more common in HDR. This is why it makes a LOT more sense to increase brightness than saturation – especially as the filter cuts light output by around 40%.

For the more technical folks, who are still unconvinced: there are mathematical formulas that convert colours perceptually from a higher brightness (but lower saturation) to a lower brightness (but higher saturation). This is in fact what tone mapping – and Dolby Vision – exploits. The math works the other way around too.

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Tip 3: Improve Perceived Contrast

There are a few ways you can improve perceived contrast but there are the ways I like to do it

  1. Choose a lower gamma setting: go into the advanced menu and choose -1 or -2 gamma. Especially as the lamp ages on the Epsons, the gamma seems to lift a bit. It might be worth trying a lower gamma by putting in a movie that you are very familiar with and choosing the gamma that looks the most correct. Also, if you darkened your room or have a bat cave, you may be able to choose a lower gamma (e.g. -2) for even more contrast. Of course this isn’t very scientific. I’ll have some video calibration guides later in the year that will allow you to do custom gamma curves.
  2. Darken your room: the darker the room, the more detail you will be able to see near black.
  3. Stop light bouncing around the room: if you are able to treat your ceiling or walls with a darker colour, especially around 2m out from your screen, it will greatly improve the image, since it will stop light bouncing around the room and back onto your projection screen.
  4. Use a cinemascope screen: by using a cinemascope screen, you are able to get rid of the black bars from projection. Since the black bars tend to be a bit grey on LCD and DLP projectors, zooming them out will greatly improve the perceived contrast.
  5. Darken your front wall: this is especially important with a cinemascope screen. Having a really dark or black front wall means that the zoomed out picture area will not light up your front wall and distract from the image, especially in HDR where you need to use the brightest modes.
  6. Use a grey screen: whether you use a cinemascope or a 16:9 screen, switching to a grey screen from a white one will improve ambient light rejection and perceived contrast. I recommend a grey screen for all rooms that don’t have literally black or very dark walls. A white screen will always look a bit more washed out when there’s light bouncing around in the room.
  7. Use an ambient light rejecting screen: if you are adventurous enough, and a grey screen won’t cut it, you can use an ambient light rejecting screen such as the Cinegrey 3D from Elite Screens. You need to be careful with quality control for these screens and buy from a reputable dealer in case a replacement is needed. These screens have very delicate material that when not handled correctly can create imperfections on the projection surface.

Get Your Projector to Talk Dolby Vision

This is not a typo. No, really!

What you need is the following:

  • An HD Fury device you can load the Sony LLDV (Low Latency Dolby Vision) EDID profile into.
  • A Sony UHD blu ray player that supports LLDV
  • Additional UHD HDMI cables to connect things up

You can read more about this on the forums. I personally had an HD Fury Linker and even though it wasn’t officially supported for this, I managed to load the EDID and get it to work. The EDID is loaded permanently (although can be switched off if needed) and doesn’t cause any issues. The Sony player can be toggled for Dolby Vision on and off so I just toggle it there.

In spite of what people are saying on the forums, Dolby Vision should only be enabled for Dolby Vision disks and streaming content. This is because the Sony players are able to convert HDR10 to DV, but they do so by hard-clipping at 1000nits, which is not ideal. They also mess with the near-black gamma in ways I don’t appreciate. Best to watch HDR10 as HDR10 on the Epsons as the tone-mapping is pretty good.

However, for Dolby Vision content, when played as Dolby Vision, this method does offer better picture quality and frame to frame tone mapping, which is what Dolby Vision really is. It can result in higher perceived brightness and higher perceived contrast.

Where to from Here for Epson?

It is almost time for Epson to release an update for these units. After that announcement, you may be able to pick up one of these for a very low price.

What are the possible improvements Epson could make in the new units?

Well, they could put native 4K chips in. However, that is not nearly as simple as it sounds. The reason is that increasing the pixel grid means decreasing the amount of light that can pass through the chips. This is because the border space for the pixels increases and therefore the amount of light the grid blocks. However, it would be possible in two ways:

  1. They increase light output by using a higher powered lamp or laser. However, this means that both the chips and the lamp / laser needs more cooling. This could increase price a bit or quite a bit.
  2. Take the hit on the light output. This is not something that is normally compatible with Epson’s strategy with these projectors. Since they cannot compete on absolute contrast performance with JVC or Sony, they try and best them on light output.

The second option is to stay with 1080p panels but pixel shift 4x instead of 2 (or now 3 with the new firmware). This could be possible by improving on the pixel shifting chip and method of shifting. This is what DLP projectors do of course.

A mixed strategy would in fact be a likely better option: increase the panel resolution to half of 4K and then shift the panels twice. This would balance the hit on light output and the technical complexity for pixel shifting. In fact, if they could flash the panels 3x (or give us the option with a slight reduction in brightness), the projector could do around 6K resolution, which would be halfway between 4K and 8K for an even better competitiveness with JVC’s 8K e-shift. Since LCD pixel sizes are smaller, the effective perceived resolution would likely be the same as the JVC’s pixel fill introduces some blur when pixel-shifting compared to native resolution.

Now is there a way Epson could stay competitive when it comes to contrast? Well, Epson is actually very good when it comes to ANSI contrast – that is displaying both bright and dark areas of an image at the same time. In fact, they tend to do quite a bit better than reflective technologies (such as JVC’s DILA or Sony’s SXDR). However, what they have an issue with is sequential contrast: that is displaying deep blacks for darker (lower APL) scenes.

To stay competitive with sequential contrast, Epson has been very aggressive with their dynamic iris and lamp dimming which are used together on the current units. However, I think they are reaching the edge of what’s possible as there are some noticeable artefacts if you look very closely even on the current units.

My preference would be for them to do double-stacked LCDs. Now this is rather advanced, but would yield exceptional contrast performance and would behave like full-array local dimming on TVs. What they could do is modulate brightness of the different picture areas using something like a 1080p LCD chip, while having 4K or pixel shifting lower-resolution panels for the 3 LCD panels they currently have that modulate red, green and blue colour channels. While this would likely require switching to laser with light polarisation to avoid burning the light-modulating LCD panel up into smithereens, it could result in a picture that even JVC and Sony would have a hard time following: literally a flat-panel like picture.

Is it likely Epson would do double-stacked LCD? I would be extremely surprised if they did for the next generation of projectors. But if Epson is very serious about LCD, then I think it is inevitable that high-end LCDs (and even DLPs) will move into double-stacking territory. This is the only way they will be able to stay competitive with high-end TVs edging closer and closer to 4000nits then 6000nits until they reach the full standard of 10 000nits.

Yes, they could simply employ laser to increase light output but unfortunately contrast performance would decrease which is not going to be competitive over time.

Display Calibration Guides

Want to calibrate your own TV or projector? Check out the Display Calibration Guide – Volume 1 and Volume 2.

Epson TW9400 / TW8400 / UB5050 / UB6050 HDR Calibration data for Dynamic Picture Mode

See here for the Ultimate Dynamic Calibration for these Epson to use without having to switch picture modes between SDR, HDR and High Lamp and Medium Lamp. I will keep the below as well for those that want a specific HDR calibration.

Please note that there are two different type of lamps Epson has for these projectors which can vary their colour output quite a bit. Also, there is lamp variance even between lamps even from the same manufacturer so the below calibration might not be ideal for your lamp. However, it is worth trying to see if it tones down the colour performance where HDR is improved. I will try and post the calibration data for the other lamp type which I also have on the unit. (see lamp two calibration here).

Dynamic HDR Lamp 1 

Lamp hours: 300h

picture mode: dynamic

Color temp: 7

Skin tone: 4

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Custom color temp:

Offset R: 49

Offset G: 49

Offset B: 49

Gain R: 50

Gain G: 40

Gain B: 50

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Grayscale:

8 0:0:0

7 22:-11:0

6 7:0:0

5 -1:0:-2

4 -5:0:-5

3 -5:0:-3

2 -3:0:-2

1  0:0:0

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Gamma: custom

Custom points:

1: 0

2: -3

3: -3

4: -4

5: -5

6: -6

7: -8

8: -16

9: 0

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RGBCMY:

R: 60:37:42

G: 55:35:47

B:60:34:53

C: 0:45:35

M: 60:49:36

Y: 58:50:48

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High Lamp

HDR slider: Double what you use for Digital Cinema. if you are using 2 under DC then use 4 for Dynamic! If you use 4 for DC, use 8 here. This also depends on content. I use 6 on a 150″ equivalent (130″ cinemascope) screen. 

Dynamic iris: High Speed

(Best to switch dynamic iris off and let the lamp warm up for 2-3 mins before movie starts then switch it back on for movie)

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  1. Hi, thanks for the useful info, where did you find out about the firmware upgrade improving the e-shift performance? Is this on v1.04? Thanks, Tony

    1. Hi Tony,
      I tested it myself and then got it confirmed by others in the industry. The pixel shifting pattern changed, so did the sharpness. I was the first one to report it on AV Forums. 🙂
      Yes, 1.04 on EU and AU firmware – although it was introduced with 1.03. I am hoping it’s the same on the US one, there isn’t a reason why it shouldn’t be! I don’t remember the US guys contradicting our findings.
      It’s a proud moment for me because I was expecting this to happen after I saw the design of the new machine. I expect Epson to improve on this with the next machine.

      Let me know your findings. You can see the pixel pattern change between 60Hz and 24Hz. The extra resolution is only available in 24hz (so disk playback or Apple TV if you have 24hz output enabled).

      1. Hi, Roland. Seems you are really know this device. Could you please clarify one thing. When I enable e-shift and watch movies recorded in 24 hz I hear hum noise but this noise immediately disappears when I change it to 60hz from my Apple TV manually. What do you think about this? May this be related to what you are talking about e-shift extra resolution for 24hz. And Many Thanks for your detailed solution!

      2. Hi Epsonuser,
        Yes, it can even without changing the number of times the device does pixel shifting. This is because the eshift device needs to run at different frequencies based on the refresh rate. It can be louder at certain frequencies than others. If it makes a very auditable loud whine, it could be a warranty issue, btw. If it sounds like a fridge compressor, it needs replacing.

      3. Hi , any suggestions for 3D mode and 3D HDR mode? I am using hd fury vrroom to remove the 4k resolution and then using DSR to allow back this resolution which gives me ability to use 3D with HDR and 4K in games
        To play games I use Reshade and Superdepth3d shader.

        In 3d mode I noticed I need to use 82 color

      4. Apologies, I never calibrated 3D to reference on the Epson. I did give it a quick go but never recorded it as it was a rush (and rubbish) job. You would need to do it with the 3D glasses running, which is a bit of a process. I don’t think I even covered this in The Display Calibration Guide, but you gave me a good idea to cover it in more detail in a future version. It won’t help you now, unfortunately.

  2. Hi Roland, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I read your article last night and got up early to upgrade the firmware before work! Will have a look and see what difference in pixel structure I can see. How can I tell the which lamp type my projector is? On the side of the projector it says elplp89. Thanks for your help, Tony

    1. No worries at all. Looking forward to your findings.
      I don’t think there’s an easy way as it’s the bulb supplier as opposed to Epson’s code or housing. It just has different colour output.
      I’ll post the other HDR settings soon and you can try both, see which one works better.
      Ultimately, it’s not going to be perfect either way due to lamp variations / aging / etc but might get you a better picture. No guarantees.
      I’ll have an ebook for colorimeter calibration for those that want to have a go. I think it’s a skill every hobbyist should have. 🙂

    1. Thx for the reminder, John. I’ll get it done later this week! 🙂 feel free to ping me again if I haven’t done it by Friday!

    1. Ok, it’s up. However, read the notes. It’s not as good a job as the first one. I did a custom gamma using the greyscale controls and the unit threw fits which means I’ll have to use the gamma controls. But this is pretty watchable on my unit for now. I’ll get back to it at the 600hr mark. But I will focus on the custom calibration guide so everyone can repeat and choose the best method to do. Focus is guides and book-writing right now. However, hope it helps.

      Did you try the first HDR setting? How did it look on your unit?

  3. Yes, I tried the first setting, and it looks great on my unit, with the HDR slider between 6 and 8 depending on the movie. I will try the other settings. Thanks Roland, I’ll be on the lookout for that calibration guide, which looks really cool too.

    1. Ok. If one looks great, the other might well look shocking. The two lamps are quite different. 🙂

      Of course there will always be variations between lamps from the same manufacturer as well as how they age so… 🙂

      Let’s see how I go with that guide then. It’s definitely needed!

  4. Dynamic HDR Lamp 2 has too much red for me, the image looks ultraviolet! to look at least acceptable, I have to down the red offset from 65 to around 50, but doing so everything seems to fall apart and neither the colors and the white balance seem correct. Dynamic HDR Lamp 1 is more accurate for my lamp. Anyway, as I said in other forums, I think that the Cinema mode is the best works with colors for HDR, but when applying the color filter, it significantly reduces the output of lumens, so important in HDR. For not very large screens like mine, 100 inches may be enough. The HDR slider is normally between 6 and 4, sometimes you have to go down to 2, It depends on the content and your personal preferences, there are people who like brighter movies and people who don’t like it so much and not all the content in HDR is mastered to the same nits, and also, unfortunately, the Epson TW 9400 does not have dynamic tone mapping like JVC for example.

    1. No worries. Thx for reporting back!

      Yes, that calibration is using a method unlikely to work between units. I’m not super fond of this lamp so it might get changed before the 1000hrs and onto lamp 3.

      If the other dynamic setting works then use that.

      I don’t like the cinema filter on the Epson. It cuts way too much light and you’re trading a massive cut in colour volume for more saturated greens and cyan. It doesn’t quite work for me. 🙂

  5. Ok, let´s go. After checking again and again, and again and again … I did not appreciate too much difference in color between the Dynamic Mode HDR 1 calibration which is correct for my lamp, and the Cinema mode, which gave me the feeling that the color worked better, now I have my doubts, because even if I treated it better, the loss of lumens is very pronounced and that plays very much in favor of the dynamic mode. The differences that I appreciate (all this without calibrating obviously, just using the default Cinema mode and the Dinamyc HDR 1 mode) is that the dynamic mode seems to be a bit yellowish and the cinema mode too blue. But after trying one and another, if I had to choose one, I would choose the dynamic mode.

    1. You’d have to calibrate your unit to get any inaccuracies out of dynamic mode but sounds like the settings made it a lot more usable.

      Ultimately, the visual impact of a higher colour volume is more important for HDR than slightly higher saturation points. That’s because it’s rare that movies use the edge of the gamut while they will use the larger dynamic range in most shots. If they do use the larger gamut, the difference is subtle.

      Of course, ideally we’d have both but that will only come with triple laser 5000+ lumens projectors. A few more generations to get that technology affordable. They either have the lumens or they have the gamut but not both currently.

  6. I’ve connected my Epson to my PC (using MPV and reshade for playback). That new firmware sounds interesting but would you prefer setting the HZ to 24 instead of 60? It sounds like with the new firmware the picture will be even sharper when using 24 HZ + new firmware vs 60hz?

    1. Yup, it will be sharper when feeding it 4K but it might only be relevant for movies, unless you’re using it as a monitor for your PC and ok with jerkiness. 24hz is not great for anything other than video recorded at 23.98 or 24hz.
      Actually, worth checking that the sharpness stays for 30hz. That could be more appropriate for monitor use. Cheers!

  7. Hi Roland. Do you have any calibration for HDR in Cinema or Digital Cinema mode to test? I think it would be interesting to see the difference between these modes and the Dynamic to determine which one is to choose. If you don’t have a specific calibration for those modes, would it be too much to ask you to do it if it is possible to test?

    Cheers!

    1. Hey RDT,
      I did do a Digital Cinema calibration but I’m not sure if I did the full gamut. I’m pretty sure I did. I’ll have a look over the weekend.
      If not, it may have to wait as the Samsung QLED is next as soon as I get to it this month. There are other sites that did the Digital Cinema cal though so you could get some settings from there.
      Personally, I think it results in too much light loss.

  8. I can wait, don’t worry. Another thing I wanted to ask you, in the Epson manual they say that the best way to enjoy content such as movies is the Cinema mode, have you tried to calibrate this mode for both HDR and SDR and see what results it gives?

    1. Yup. You can’t calibrate it for SDR as the gamut isn’t linear / has massive errors. It is impossible to fix without an external 3D LUT. I emailed Epson about this when I sent them my feedback on factory firmware. It’s not easy to fix on their end probably.

  9. Do you have tried the Bright Cinema mode for HDR? There is a lot of talk about the Dynamic mode but the Bright Cinema mode may be a good option calibrated for HDR, what do you think?

    1. It’s not a bad mode for HDR but it wouldn’t get you heaps more light or contrast than the Natural mode. They don’t let as much of the light through and they jack the contrast so gamma is a bit funny. But it can be done. I just don’t see heaps of advantage to it unless you don’t want the crazy dynamic iris in dynamic mode.

  10. Hi, Roland. Seems you are really know this device. Could you please clarify one thing. When I enable e-shift and watch movies recorded in 24 hz I hear hum noise but this noise immediately disappears when I change it to 60hz from my Apple TV manually. What do you think about this? May this be related to what you are talking about e-shift extra resolution for 24hz. And Many Thanks for your detailed solution!

    1. Hi Epsonuser,
Yes, it can even without changing the number of times the device does pixel shifting. This is because the eshift device needs to run at different frequencies based on the refresh rate. It can be louder at certain frequencies than others. If it makes a very auditable loud whine, it could be a warranty issue, btw. If it sounds like a fridge compressor, it needs replacing.

  11. Dear Roland;
    greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
    thank you very much for all your posts (Epson projectors and Audyssey tips), they are really helpful!
    I’ve been using your gamma curve for HDR (although in the 5040) and it definitely works better than the Epson’s gamma curves – better blacks and brighter picture.
    I would like to ask you if by any chance do you have a custom gamma for SDR/REC709 as well that could improve black levels and also brightness.
    Thank you very much for the knowledge you shared! 👍
    Best regards,
    Luís Alberto (Brazil) 🇧🇷

    1. Hi Luis,
      Glad you’re enjoying the blog.
      For SDR, you can increase the Contrast setting on the projector if you wanted a more contrasty picture at the expense of crushing highlights a bit. It might help especially if you are trying to cut through some ambient light in the room.

      The other option, especially if you are in a dark room, is to increase your gamma (by switching the SDR gamma to -1 or -2). In a bright room, you may want to decrease your gamma (by switching it to 1 or 2).

      Try to play with those settings and see what you like.

  12. Quand je regarde un film en 16/9 je vois mais très très très légèrement le marquage en haut et en bas des bandes noires que l’on a quand on regarde un des films en 2.35 c’est presque invisible mais c’est là.

    1. It’s because those movies were shot in 1.85:1 aspect ratio, not 16:9, so you have a very small black bar too and bottom.
      You can zoom the image out a bit and use electronic masking (called blanking) on the sides if it bothers you.

    1. Hi Jules, you can try both and see which one you prefer. The Ultimate calibration retains the ability to use the gamma controls which is preferable in case you wanted to watch in a dark vs bright environment.

  13. Tip 1B: can you please post a correctly aligned junction for mis-alignment?
    In my case, the projector has been serviced and the panels were replaced by an Epson sevice lab, after which the red panel seems to be full 1 pixel leak to the left of the blue with less than half pixel leak to the right and the green panel with less than half pixel leak to the bottom. The red leak is quite noticeable from 3m viewing distance and surrounds any white projected area.

    After calling the service center I was told that the entire panel module is installed as-is and cannot be messed with…

    1. Hi Assaf,
      If the panel alignment is noticeable from a seating distance, it’s best to align it.
      In your case, the red channel is exactly one pixel out so align it using the Panel Alignment menu by reading the procedure in your manual. (I’m guessing from your comment that you are not English speaker so maybe best to download the manual from the regional Epson website.)

      Regarding the blue and green channels, it is upto you if you want to align them or leave them. 1/2 pixel is at a point where you would be cutting into the resolution of the colour channels so I would try it both ways with material and see what you prefer from your seating distance. But if it’s not noticeable, I would be inclined to leave it.

      To align the green channel, you’ll have to move red and blue towards green as you can’t move green.
      Cheers,
      Roland

  14. Hi Roland,

    I know this is an old thread, but it remains relevant, because the Epson 5050UB still. My research indicates it’s the best projector available for under $3,000. I purchased a refurbished one directly from Epson for $2,100 US. It’s surprising that, in the fast-paced tech world, a five-year-old model remains top-tier.

    I’m interested in your thoughts on the Dynamic mode. From what I’ve read, activating the HDR filter significantly reduces lumens, which seems like a major downside. Additionally, I understand your points on JVC’s quality and service. About 15 years ago, I owned an HD750 that cost $5,000 and failed after three years. The repair process in the US was slow too, requiring months for a quote and additional months for parts from Japan, without any guarantee of a complete fix. I ended up abandoning it and got an Epson 5030 and had no problems. But I sold my house in 2018 and sold the Epson with it.

    In 2018, I thought give the Optoma UHD60 a shot, because it was the first affordable 4K projector. I have not regrets, it was a good projector, but was disappointed by its black levels. I had hoped to wait for a more affordable laser projector, but prices haven’t dropped as I expected. So, I’ve decided to go with the 5050UB to ride out the wait. My kids also enjoy its 3D capabilities, which left me with two choices, the NP5 and the Epson. The Epson won out over JVC due to past experiences.

    Anyway, If you have a 3D calibration to recommend, that would be fantastic. Also, I’ve recently acquired a Panasonic UB9000 for its tone mapping capabilities. Do you have any experience pairing it with the Epson? If so, please pass that along.

    Other then that, have a good day mate!

    1. Hi Frank,
      I had the UB6050 for many years and I LOVED that projector. It’s a very good value even today so congrats.

      I have a JVC NZ8 now but frankly, I still miss having an Epson for its ease of use and especially for gaming. The JVC just isn’t a gaming projector, it’s a serious movie projector, but of a one hit pony if you know what I mean.

      I don’t have a 3D calibration I can recommend but check out the below link from a fellow AVForums member who has done some 3D calibration work on these.

      https://sites.google.com/view/dreaming-cinema/home

      Ultimately, I would recommend you learn calibration you are a fan of projectors. It’s been an invaluable skill for me and brought much more enjoyment of the gear over the years.

      Well, I have a Panasonic player as well. You could enable the HDR Optimiser but ultimately I didn’t have it on, I just used the HDR slider on the Epson, as it’s so easy to call up and use if needed. But I’m not as worried about a bit of highlight clipping here and there as some other people are. But the HDR Optimiser is there to bring everything down into the 1000nit container so just put it on OLED mode or something. That will do it. Not the low luminance display option – I’m not sure that’s a good match for the Epson which is brilliant at tone-mapping down from 1000nits better than most projectors so why not use that.

      Search for UB5050 in the search bar at the top. You’ll find other articles on the site.
      Other than that, just enjoy. It’s a great projector. Congrats. 🙂

      1. Thank you sir! The NZ8 is the projector to have. The NZ7 specs out to close to the NP5 to make it worth it IMO. Unfortunately, I have a daughter that I’m paying for college and the extra $12k for deeper blacks is not currently in the cards for me. lol! But I’m an A/V person, so i get it. Ultimately, I would like to see that performance in a projector priced at $5k. I might be waiting a while! lol! I agree, I need to learn how to calibrate myself. I bought the light meter or whatever it is, but never followed through. I moved a few years ago and I’ve since lost track of it. If you have a link for a good starting point on calibration, maybe I’ll follow through with it. I’ll try to find some other posts of yours.

      2. I didn’t say that because I think the NZ8 is the one to have. As amazing as it is, I think it’s not a well-rounded projector, frankly.
        I think the Epson LS12000 or one of Sony’s projectors is probably a good next step once you have the funds. But the UB5050 is still very good so enjoy it. There’s always better for more money and it doesn’t really end so why keep upgrading when you can have 80-90% of the performance for much less.

        My partner reflected on this as such: for the enthusiast, there is probably a clear difference, but these are all high-end products and for someone who doesn’t know much about this hobby, they all look great. I tend to agree.

        Well, we do have The Display Calibration Guide on our website. You can find it under the Pro Guides section. But here’s a direct link as well.
        https://simplehomecinema.com/2021/04/13/display-calibration-guide-volume-1/

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